Thanks, this is an excellent example!

--- In STAR240@yahoogroups.com, "ronald penley" <MYBLVD@V...> wrote:
> You're not alone.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Anthony
>   To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:55 PM
>   Subject: Re: [240] FW: 17th Annual Halloween Witch Ride to
Benefit MDA
>
>
>   Are you serious?
>   You didn't see Doug's post about this earlier in the week?
>   I thought you even had respounded to it.
>   I don't know, maybe I am the only one who sees the confusion in
these multi forum, email jumbles and disregarded postings.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Patrick E. Rosenheim
>     To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
>     Cc: 'pam foss' ; CARVERLOU@a...
>     Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 5:35 AM
>     Subject: RE: [240] FW: 17th Annual Halloween Witch Ride to
Benefit MDA
>
>
>     I don't know. Where and when did Doug post a ride?
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
>
>     From: STAR240@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STAR240@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Anthony
>     Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:03 PM
>     To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: Re: [240] FW: 17th Annual Halloween Witch Ride to
Benefit MDA
>
>
>
>     Is this the same ride that Doug posted?
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>
>       From: Pat Rosenheim
>
>       To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
>
>       Cc: 'pam foss' ; 'Louie Dellanno' ; b112258@y...
>
>       Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:55 PM
>
>       Subject: [240] FW: 17th Annual Halloween Witch Ride to
Benefit MDA
>
>
>
>       What do you guys think? This is the same day as our brunch.
We could have brunch, and then go to this...
>
>       Regards,
>       Pat Rosenheim, president and webmaster
>       Star Touring Chapter #240 Essex County, MA
>       http://star240.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
>
>         From: Chris Daniels [mailto:mdaevents@g...]
>         Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:54 PM
>         To: info@m...
>         Subject: 17th Annual Halloween Witch Ride to Benefit MDA
>
>         Join us on Sunday, October 30th for the 17th Annual
Halloween Witch Ride to benefit the Muscular Dystrophy Association.
Ride leaves from the Boston Harley-Davidson dealership in Everett,
MA and goes to Pickering Wharf in Salem, MA. Registration is from
10AM-2PM and ride leaves at 2PM Sharp. There will be a 40 Police
escort to Salem. Registration is $15 per person(day of ride) and $10
for those that pre-register. All pre-registration forms must be
received prior to 6PM on October 27th. FREE Coffee and Donuts
courtesy of Krispy Kreme in Medford. 100% of proceeds to benefit
MDA. Call Boston Harley-Davidson at 617-389-8888 with any questions.
We are hoping for 8,000 riders this year!!! All bikes are
welcome!!!!!
>
>
>
>         http://www.bostonharley.com/custompage2.asp?pg=events
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That email address doesn't work. Please have him contact me...

--- In STAR240@yahoogroups.com, "lh_pnly" <MYBLVD@V...> wrote:
> Bill H at parkway cycles has asked for our support of a Parkway
> sponsored event- A pre Halloween/witch party.  I hope we can maybe
> make this our brunch.  Bill has helped out a lot of our members,
> including myself.  I think it would be a great recruiting tool as
> well.  Hope we can all make it.  I will post more details this
week.
> If anyone wants to contact BILL directly - billh@p...

This must be the message that Anthony is referring to, where Doug says
something about metrics meeting up and also says he won't be psoting
anym ore info as it is WAY too much work...

--- In STAR240@yahoogroups.com, "lh_pnly" <MYBLVD@V...> wrote:
>  Parkway cycles is hosting a pre Witch run party on October 30
2005.
> It is not a sign in point for the ride, just a place and event for
> metrics to meet up and ride togehter.  Hope to see every one there.
> I will not be posting more info as it is WAY too much work to log in
> to this format- Hope it goes away soon.
> BLVD

Billh@parkwaycycles.com is not working...

-----Original Message-----
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Bill;

One of my chapter's members said you would like our help on Oct. 30th.

How may we help?

Regards,
Pat Rosenheim
http://star240.com
Star Touring Chapter #240 Essex County, MA
-- midnightventure@verizon.net

Yeah, I agree. And as I stated at our meeting I'd like to have a meeting 
with Parkway and we should also register with the ride.

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 9:29 am, Roxanne Pagliuca wrote:
> Bill McCarthy stated at our meeting that he called Boston Harley and 
> ASKED if there were any bike NOT allowed to participate and was told  
> NO..All are invited.  There is no mention of any exclusions of sport 
> bikes or ANY non Harley bikes on Boston Biker.com where the event is 
> listed.  Realistically, does it make sense to sponser a charity ride 
> and then EXCLUDE bikes....I think the beef is between Parkway Cycles 
> and Boston Harley and something I don't think we as a club should be 
> getting into...of course individuals can do whatever they like. 
>
> Roxanne Pagliuca
>
> Cars lie to us and tell us we're safe,powerful and in control.  
> Motorcycles tell us a more useful truth: we are small and exposed, and 
> probably moving too fast for our own good, but that's no reason not to 
> enjoy every minute of the ride.
>
> Life may not be the party we hoped for...but while we are here we might 
> as well dance!
>
>> --------------------
>
>> From: "Patrick E. Rosenheim" <midnightventure@verizon.net>
>> Reply-To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
>> To: "'Bill H'" <billh@parkwaycycle.com>
>> CC: "'Louie Dell'Anno'" <CARVERLOU@aol.com>,"'pam foss'" 
>> <cruisergirl26@hotmail.com>,"'David Riley'" 
>> <driley46@verizon.net>,"'Gail Riley'" 
>> <gsriley1@hotmail.com>,<STAR240@yahoogroups.com>,<HYDRO5000@aol.com>,"'Mike 
>> Mullen'" 
>> <blacksheep1959@hotmail.com>,<Claimscote@aol.com>,<bigboy@metrocast.net>
>> Subject: [240] RE: Oct 30th
>> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:08:10 -0400
>
>> We have a brunch that day at the Hilltop @ 10AM.
>
>> After brunch, we can show up, OK?
>
>> I believe the ride leaves at 2PM, right?
>
>> Will you be feeding us?
>
>> Boston Harley doesn’t want sportbikes, or do they not want any 
>> non-HD products?
>
>> --------------------
>
>> From: Bill H [mailto:billh@parkwaycycle.com]
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:55 AM
>> To: 'Patrick E. Rosenheim'
>> Subject: RE: Oct 30th
>
>> PAT, AS YOU KNOW PARKWAY CYCLE SELL’S MANY SPORT BIKES.  SOME OF 
>> OUR EMPLOYEE’S OWN THEM.  THEY WERE TOLD BY BOSTON HARLEY THAT THEY 
>> DO NOT WANT SPORT BIKES IN THE RUN THIS YEAR.  SO SOME OF THE 
>> EMPLOYEE’S FROM PARKWAY  WOULD LIKE TO GO ON THE SAME RUN BUT LEAVE 
>> FROM PARKWAY.  BECAUSE PARKWAY DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANY 
>> MOTORYCLE ENTHUSIAST!  THANKS, BILL 
>> H.                                            ANY 
>> --Original Message-----
>
>> From: Patrick E. Rosenheim [mailto:nextstep@patrosenheim.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:48 PM
>> To: billh@parkwaycycle.com
>> Subject: Oct 30th
>
>> Bill;
>
>> One of my chapter's members said you would like our help on Oct. 30th.
>
>> How may we help?
>
>> Regards,
>
>> Pat Rosenheim
>
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To be clear, are you still advocating that the meeting with Parkway 
take place on the day of the ride and then we go and register?  I 
think that will send a mixed message to the riders at Parkway.

If we want to promote unity among riders we should try and identify 
the REAL reasons behind the complaints.  There will be thousands of 
bikes at this ride.  I don't think that harsh words between a few of 
them should be blown out of proportion.

On the subject of Parkway running behind the ride and not 
registering, I have spoken to the Sheriff's Motorcycle Unit which 
will be providing escort.  Under no conditions will they be allowed 
to run behind the group.  They will be stopped and made to disperse 
or detained and released in pairs.  The reasons for that are:

As a group, they are separate from the ride and do not have a parade 
permit and escort, posing a danger to public safety.

If they are not registered, they have not signed the ride waiver, nor 
have they contributed to the charity, which is the purpose of the 
run, and the reason a lot of these Officers are donating their time.

At the end of the line will be police cruisers, tow trucks, and 
ambulances.  After these vehicles are through, the intersections will 
be released and riders trying to pass in a group will be putting 
themselves in danger and causing a public nuisance.

At this point, they may be detained in the parking lot at Parkway, 
the same as automobile traffic, until the ride is well underway and 
the have no chance of joining it.  I would hate for our members to 
get caught up in something like that and miss the ride, or to get 
identified by Law Enforcement as part of the problem.

Bob Russo

I want to have a meeting with Parkway prior to the ride. I never advocated
that we meet with Parkway the day of the ride and then go register. I did
say I thought we should try to support them as a dealer and encourage them
to register. I also said we could go to Parkway after our brunch and spend
some time with them. It was my hope that we could spread some goodwill. I
said we should pre-register because it's cheaper, but we should probably
wait until the day before to check the weather.

I agree, Bob. We do not want to be seen as part of the problem.

This is a sticky situation, and we don't need to get 'stuck' by it...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: STAR240@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STAR240@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bob
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:58 AM
> To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [240] witch run
>
> To be clear, are you still advocating that the meeting with Parkway
> take place on the day of the ride and then we go and register?  I
> think that will send a mixed message to the riders at Parkway.
>
> If we want to promote unity among riders we should try and identify
> the REAL reasons behind the complaints.  There will be thousands of
> bikes at this ride.  I don't think that harsh words between a few of
> them should be blown out of proportion.
>
> On the subject of Parkway running behind the ride and not
> registering, I have spoken to the Sheriff's Motorcycle Unit which
> will be providing escort.  Under no conditions will they be allowed
> to run behind the group.  They will be stopped and made to disperse
> or detained and released in pairs.  The reasons for that are:
>
> As a group, they are separate from the ride and do not have a parade
> permit and escort, posing a danger to public safety.
>
> If they are not registered, they have not signed the ride waiver, nor
> have they contributed to the charity, which is the purpose of the
> run, and the reason a lot of these Officers are donating their time.
>
> At the end of the line will be police cruisers, tow trucks, and
> ambulances.  After these vehicles are through, the intersections will
> be released and riders trying to pass in a group will be putting
> themselves in danger and causing a public nuisance.
>
> At this point, they may be detained in the parking lot at Parkway,
> the same as automobile traffic, until the ride is well underway and
> the have no chance of joining it.  I would hate for our members to
> get caught up in something like that and miss the ride, or to get
> identified by Law Enforcement as part of the problem.
>
> Bob Russo
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I want to have a meeting with Parkway prior to the ride. I never advocated
that we meet with Parkway the day of the ride and then go register. I did
say I thought we should try to support them as a dealer and encourage them
to register. I also said we could go to Parkway after our brunch and spend
some time with them. It was my hope that we could spread some goodwill. I
said we should pre-register because it's cheaper, but we should probably
wait until the day before to check the weather.

I agree, Bob. We do not want to be seen as part of the problem.

This is a sticky situation, and we don't need to get 'stuck' by it...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: STAR240@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STAR240@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bob
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:58 AM
> To: STAR240@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [240] witch run
>
> To be clear, are you still advocating that the meeting with Parkway
> take place on the day of the ride and then we go and register?  I
> think that will send a mixed message to the riders at Parkway.
>
> If we want to promote unity among riders we should try and identify
> the REAL reasons behind the complaints.  There will be thousands of
> bikes at this ride.  I don't think that harsh words between a few of
> them should be blown out of proportion.
>
> On the subject of Parkway running behind the ride and not
> registering, I have spoken to the Sheriff's Motorcycle Unit which
> will be providing escort.  Under no conditions will they be allowed
> to run behind the group.  They will be stopped and made to disperse
> or detained and released in pairs.  The reasons for that are:
>
> As a group, they are separate from the ride and do not have a parade
> permit and escort, posing a danger to public safety.
>
> If they are not registered, they have not signed the ride waiver, nor
> have they contributed to the charity, which is the purpose of the
> run, and the reason a lot of these Officers are donating their time.
>
> At the end of the line will be police cruisers, tow trucks, and
> ambulances.  After these vehicles are through, the intersections will
> be released and riders trying to pass in a group will be putting
> themselves in danger and causing a public nuisance.
>
> At this point, they may be detained in the parking lot at Parkway,
> the same as automobile traffic, until the ride is well underway and
> the have no chance of joining it.  I would hate for our members to
> get caught up in something like that and miss the ride, or to get
> identified by Law Enforcement as part of the problem.
>
> Bob Russo
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I am sure this message will not get posted, but I am categorically 
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What happened to the other forum? There were ongoing discussions that 
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No discussions are "now lost"

That won't happen until after midnight on 12/31

The "other forum" is still there

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...never give anybody a break.

Jeez!

;-)

--- In STAR240@yahoogroups.com, "xtu1963" <xtu1963@h...> wrote:
>
> I am sure this message will not get posted, but I am categorically 
> opposed to "moderated" groups. This puts the power to censor in the 
> hands of the few and is undemocratic. This stinks.
>

Well, thanks for the kind and supportive comments.

I have turned OFF ALL MODERATION, so anyone can join and anyone can 
post.

Here are the group settings;

Group Settings
Membership does not require approval 
Messages do not require approval 
All members can post messages 
Email attachments are permitted 
Members cannot hide email address 
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Group Information
Members: 35 
Category: Massachusetts
Founded: Jul 14, 2003
Language: English

Have fun!

I guess you didn't understand my objection to moderation. If you have 
to be a member of Star 240 to join the forum, then why do we need 
moderation?

I am sorry you think that my comments are unkind and unsupportive, but 
they are my opinion. You seem to think that any comment that does not 
support your decisions are indictments of you, personally. That is not 
the case. I have no problem with you, Pat, I have a problem with this 
forum. The other forum had seperate areas for members and non-members 
(of the forum) and an area restricted to just chapter members. It 
doesn't appear we can do that here.

Another problem I see with moderation is that if the moderator is not 
online, the messages have to wait to be seen. This makes it difficult 
to carry on a discussion in a timely manner.

If switching to the Yahoo forums was done to reduce the time you have 
to spend maintaining it, it doesn't seem like that has happened.

Why does every decision around here have to be an extreme, seemingly 
off the cuff decision. I made a comment and you reacted in an extreme 
manner and changed things. I could be wrong. I just expressed an 
opinion. Why can't you take my opinion and integrate it in with 
everyone elses opinions and then make a calm reasoned decision?

I think my initial decision to just stay off the forum and not comment 
about chapter business was the correct one.

--- In STAR240@yahoogroups.com, "Pat Rosenheim (357/Y)" 
<midnightventure@v...> wrote:
>
> --- In STAR240@yahoogroups.com, "xtu1963" <xtu1963@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I am sure this message will not get posted, but I am categorically 
> > opposed to "moderated" groups. This puts the power to censor in 
the 
> > hands of the few and is undemocratic. This stinks.
> >
> 
> Well, thanks for the kind and supportive comments.
> 
> I have turned OFF ALL MODERATION, so anyone can join and anyone can 
> post.
>